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Download Alternate Start - Live Another Life 3.0.03 Votes
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Misery and despair have haunted you all your life. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, you've been arrested and thrown in the dungeons. Your trial was supposed to be weeks ago, only nobody has come for you. It's been so long since seeing daylight you no longer know what month it is anymore. The dungeon is cold, damp, and worse still, you're running out of food. At least you have that leak in the wall for water. It seems as though you've been forgotten, soon to rot away and die. The eight have forsaken you! Or... have they?
Live Another Life provides an alternative means to start the game for those who do not wish to go through the lengthy intro sequence at Helgen. You will be given the opportunity to choose your race and then choose a new life for your character to lead. A wide variety of choices will be available. What you choose will have a lasting impact, so choose carefully or the gods may forsake you again!
Additional support has also been provided to allow you to extend Live Another Life with your own starts.
The Assimilation Lab
Live Another Life Bug Tracker: http://afkmods.iguan...e-another-life/
Official Skyrim patch 188.8.131.52.8 or greater. Using earlier game versions will result in CTDs and other problems. Just don't.
Official Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn DLCs are required.
Use of the Unofficial Skyrim, Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn Patches is STRONGLY recommended.
You will need to turn on subtitles to see the text for the startup quest.
Alternately, download and use Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice (http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/14884) to see subtitles only on those NPCs with no voiced audio. This requires SKSE.
Installation - Wrye Bash BAIN
Drop the archive into your Skyrim Mods\Bash Installers folder, then install as usual.
Make sure the mod is active in the Wrye Bash mods tab.
Installation - Steam Workshop
Subscribe to the mod via the Workshop page, then use the Skyrim launcher to allow it to download and install.
Make sure it's active in the Data Files menu.
The ini file will not install to the correct location. In the Workshop's infinite wisdom, that ends up in the following location:
C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\alternate start - live another life.ini
It needs to actually be placed in the Data folder, on this path:
C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\alternate start - live another life.ini
Installation - Nexus Mod Manager
Use the "Download with Manager" button on the Live Another Life page at Skyrim Nexus. The installer should take care of things from there.
Or add it to NMM manually through the "Add File" dialogue.
Then simply make sure NMM has the mod activated.
Installation - Manual
Drop Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp, Alternate Start - Live Another Life.bsa, and Alternate Start - Live Another Life.ini into your Data folder.
Activate the mod using whatever management tool suits you.
Uninstalling Live Another Life
Due to the nature of Skyrim mods, especially those adding scripts, it is strongly discouraged to attempt uninstalling a mod from your active game. Any mod that is more than pure mesh or texture replacements has the possibility to leave behind permanent changes to your save that you may not want. This is not something modders can correct for. It is how the game was designed by Bethesda. No support will be provided for anyone who uninstalls this mod from an active game and continues on with that save.
That said, should you insist on going forward with doing so you must adhere to the following:
First things first. You need to be sure the main quest has been started before you can uninstall this mod. The quest "Live Another Life" must have been marked as completed, AND you must have "Before the Storm" listed in your journal. Uninstalling prior to this will break the main quest as well as the civil war.
It should also go without saying that if you're using the farmhouse start, clean your stuff out of it first because if you don't you'll lose it all.
Clean your stuff out of any other start location containers you may be using, including any that are part of the vanilla game because they will NO LONGER BE SAFE STORAGE!!!
Once that's done, use your preferred method to uninstall the mod. The .esp, .bsa, and ini files must be removed entirely.
Steam Workshop users should be sure to unsubscribe before doing this or the launcher will simply replace those files again.
Due to the sensitive nature of the mod, it should be loaded relatively late in the load order. A lot of other mods may seek to make modifications to Helgen and the charactergen quests. Moving this further down in your list will likely help, a lot. I highly recommend going with the order LOOT (http://loot.github.io/) specifies.
As of version 2.5.0 and higher, Live Another Life allows for extensions to be written to provide additional starting options. This is a known list of extensions that are available:
City Guard - the example extension provided on the Nexus page for LAL.
Legacy of the Dragonborn ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/52248) - An extension to allow you start as a relic hunter for the mod's museum in Solitude.
Death Alternative - Alternate Start Addon ( http://www.nexusmods...rim/mods/61788/) - Various options to start as a slave and/or captive.
Salmon Shack - LAL Version ( http://www.nexusmods...rim/mods/60402/) - Start option utilizing MannyGT's Salmon Shack.
Starting Spell Choice - ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/55489 )
Tested and confirmed to work with Open Cities Skyrim.
Known to be incompatible with any mod which attempts to remove the essential flags from any NPCs in Helgen.
Song of Ice and Skyrim ( http://steamcommunit...tails/?id=20793) causes the game to get stuck loading the prison cell, regardless of load order.
Descent Into Madness ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/16461) causes the game to get stuck loading the prison cell, regardless of load order.
The Oblivion Racial Bonuses module from Occupy Skyrim ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/12479) is not compatible since OCS OSR.esp alters MQ101.
Sellswords ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/27942) is not compatible because it alters MQ101 to be able to offer its alternative game mode.
The Forsworn Legacy ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/27369) - Use the "Savegame Version" and delete Data\Scripts\QF_MQ101_0003372B.pex after installing it. DO NOT USE the "new game" version as it will not work with my mod.
Helgen Reborn ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/35841) – Previously required a lockout for the vanilla start. As of Helgen Reborn 105.3 this is no longer the case and all start options are now fully compatible.
Return to Helgen (by Giskard) ( http://steamcommunit...ls/?id=95276126) - This mod is only partially compatible with LAL. If you plan to use them together, you must trigger the events at Helgen BEFORE venturing to the city of Solitude. Going to Solitude before Helgen will completely break the chain of events and render the MQ unstartable, as well as potentially disrupting the Civil War permanently. Starts in or immediately near Solitude will be disabled in LAL as long as Return to Helgen is installed.
Morskom Estate ( http://www.nexusmods...rim/mods/57141/) - Previously required a lockout for the vanilla start option. This is no longer the case with Morskom 1.3 and above. All start options are now compatible.
Shlongs of Skyrim (ugh, yes, there really is a mod about that) - This has been reported to completely mess up the cart ride for the vanilla start option. If you're going to use that mod, it is best to wait until you're off the carts and inside the keep before installing it.
Become High King of Skyrim ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/41087) - Edits MQ101, though it's a dirty edit. Either clean the mod using TES5Edit or make sure it loads BEFORE Live Another Life so that it won't cause the "new game" menu to get stuck.
Better Vampires ( http://www.nexusmods...kyrim/mods/9717) - No issues should arise from using LAL and BV together. Even the vampire start should work properly as the method LAL uses to change you into one uses script calls BV retains in its edited version of the player's vampire quest.
Pirates of the Pacific ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/29443) - Has been reported several times to cause the player to spawn somewhere completely off the map. It is not currently known what causes this as it really shouldn't be possible.
Buy_Whiterun3 ( http://www.nexusmods...yrim/mods/57340) - The optional "New Start" file has been confirmed incompatible because it modified the MQ101 quest scripts. Do not install the optional file.
Reclamation Legacy Armor (http://www.nexusmods...rim/mods/52502/) - The author of this mod has edited a critica Patrol package which will stop Alduin from leaving Helgen. This is *NOT* a problem with LAL, and this Patrol package is used by numerous guards throughout the game. The edit will also break the vanilla start when you reach the execution block. Alduin never arrives, so you get stuck on the chopping block. This has to be fixed by the mod's author - the edit should never have been made.
Mods altering the Abandoned Prison (cell 00021594) will probably need to be patched since the navmesh has been edited.
Mods which alter the following quests will not be compatible without a patch:
MQ101 - Unbound
MQ102 - Before the Storm
CW00WindhelmMapTableScene - Jagged Crown scene for Ulfric and Galmar (USKP fixes have been included)
WERoad01 - Farmer refugees after dragon attack
Mods which edit the following scripts will not be compatible unless patched:
The Thane offer won't be available in every city right away if you use a property owner start. The quest interaction makes doing so impossible without sacrificing too much of the content to it.
When picking the Companions guild start, you need to go watch the fight before Vlikas will go outside to train you.
When choosing one of the two civil war starts, you are strongly advised to let the Jagged Crown scene play out. If you don't, the quest may fail to start and the entire civil war quest line will get jammed.
There may be some unfound dialogue that references Helgen. If you find some and have NOT witnessed Alduin fly overhead yet, please report those with as much detail as possible.
Some quests in a major city you pick a start for may not be available until after you've left that city and returned later. This is normal. It's due to how Change Location events work in the game and there's nothing that can be done about it.
Starting the Main Quest
Skyrim has a lot more flexibility in pursuit of the main quest, even when playing the default Helgen scenario. Alduin's appearance does not force one to pursue the main quest beyond Helgen. So this mod is mainly providing a mechanism to bypass Helgen and not encounter Alduin either. The game will patiently wait for you to follow along. So there's no special effort really needed to avoid it, just don't do it
For most of the starts, it will appear as though your "Live Another Life" quest has stalled. You will not have an active objective telling you where to go next. When you are ready to begin pursuing the main quest, talk to an innkeeper and ask them for rumors. You should get your next objective at that point and can then follow things to their conclusion.
Of course, you don't strictly NEED to follow the quest to the letter and can just show up in Helgen any time you want and the main quest will pick up with Alduin leaving the area for his initial flyover.
Choosing the campsite start skips the startup quest, you will begin immediately with the encounter with Alduin. Choosing a civil war start bypasses all of this, by necessity, so you won't need to deal with Helgen at all.
Using this mod to follow the default Helgen sequence will play out the same as the vanilla game.
Chesko - For his polygon shape detection script.
Nikkita - For her awesome work on the voiced lines for the statue of Mara in the starting cell.
Dwip - The new mesh section for the farmhouse interior used in the Hearthfire add-on.
What's New in Version 3.0.0 (See full changelog)
- Irileth's dialogue to tell her Alvor or Gerdur had sent you wasn't available on the vanilla start option. (Bug #18363)
- Maramal and Talen-Jei will no longer be standing in the center of the Bee & Barb waiting for dragons to be enabled before their scene starts.
- Inn Patron starts now include Markarth, Riften, Solitude, Whiterun, and Windhelm.
- The Helgen lockouts have been removed for Helgen Reborn and Morskom Estate. Apparently at some point updates to those mods, or to LAL itself, have rendered them unnecessary. (Bug #18591)
- Property owner starts never sent notification to the Hearthfire adoption system that the player owned a house. So if a new vanilla house had not been purchased yet in a second city, the game would not know there was already one available for adoption purposes. (Bug #18681)
- As of version 3.0.0, this mod now requires all 3 official DLCs to run.
- Mod specific checks will only log Papyrus data until after leaving the prison cell. These checks are only needed for starting the game so don't need to be looked at for every load.
- Property start options were added for Hearthfire. You can now choose on of the 3 houses to start in.
- Three new Left For Dead start positions have been placed on Solstheim. These won't be easy. It's Solstheim after all!
- Raven Rock was added to the list of destinations to arrive by ship. Choosing this will treat you to the boat ride animation you'd see coming from Windhelm.
- It is now possible to join Harkon's Court as a vampire lord.
- Old Hroldan Inn has been added to the inn start list.
- The Redguard start location has been moved north into the hills near Soljund's Sinkhole to avoid future compatibility issues with Shezrie's Old Hroldan Town mod.
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